Friday, April 16, 2010
Oppression
B period
There is a clear connection between The Glass Menagerie and Native son, oppression. In Native Son, Bigger is oppressed and shunned by society for being African American, in The Glass Menagerie, Tom is an outcast of society because he is gay. Bigger and Tom are oppressed by their mothers with the heavy burden of providing a steady income for their families and both the families live in poor housing conditions, another form of society's oppression. In each story this oppression creates the characters to feel trapped, and both express a want to run away from all the responsibility and hardship. Though one story is about a man and the other a family, and both are so different in numerous ways, the bridging theme between the two writings cannot be denied. The oppression that Bigger and Tom face, though it comes in different forms, is one in the same.
In Native Son, this same ignorance can be seen in Mrs. Dalton. Yes on the surface it seemed she wanted to help Mr. Greene, but it's clear she most likely didn't take into consideration Mr. Greene's perspective. Even if he did go to night school, his position was most likely not to improve, and the comfort he felt working for the Dalton's was surely much better than the racism he'd have to confront in the real world. Mrs. Dalton ignored that, and forced him to go to night school, believing she'd done something to help him,
Connection
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Secret Ninja Man Strikes Again! Anonymously!
At first, I was going to be glib and say that both Native Son and The Glass Menagerie were books. But then I remembered The Glass Menagerie was in fact a play. And then I remembered that I want a good grade in American Studies. So my connection is the fact that both main characters, Bigger and Tom, don’t really fit in. Bigger is a black man stuck in a white world, and therefore just wants to get away. (So naturally, throwing someone into a furnace is the appropriate reaction. (This, by the way, was not a parenthetical notation. It was simply my thoughts inside parentheses.)) Tom is a grown man, who is stuck with his obnoxious mother who is stuck in the past. His plan throughout the whole book, (I’m sorry, throughout the whole play), is to leave and go do whatever he wants, wherever he wants. Although both have this sense of being trapped, the two react to it differently. Bigger lashes out violently, such as with the rat and with Gus. Oh yeah, and Mary and Bessie. And that police officer. Tom, on the other hand, constantly expresses his disapproval, aiming his anger and frustration towards his mother. In addition to that, he finds another outlet for these feelings in movie theaters (though not the way Bigger does). He lives his dreams of being somewhere else through the heroes and adventurers in the movies, and spends most of his time there. Plus, he drinks a lot, which probably helps him as well.
Cordially,
Matthew Dever
Alana C
Cooper Swenson's Response
Liz Kleisner.
-Tarryn
The Glass Menagerie and Native Son
The Glass Menagerie and Native Son
Connection
Wednesday, April 14, 2010
Tuesday, April 13, 2010
Connection Between Native Son and The Glass Menagerie
Tuesday, March 23, 2010
Sunday, February 28, 2010
After reading most of book two, I lost all respect for Bigger. The way that he is treating Bessie, as his girlfriend, shows how little he cares about Bessie and just wants to get a lot of money and run out of town. Bessie always tells Bigger how much she doesn’t want to follow through with his plan, usually while in tears. Bigger doesn’t have any feeling towards other people. He is extremely self centered and pulls people into bad situations.
Friday, February 26, 2010
2.) As Book II progressed, I started to feel a growing resentment for Bigger Thomas. It is ironic that his name is Bigger, for I believed he would triumphantly overcome his white "masters" and rid his world of oppression. However, he has perpetrated a devastating act, one that will not end with a true ultimatum of justice. I hoped Bigger would feel regret for his crime, but he seems to be proud of his work. Bigger succeeded at doing the unthinkable, killing a white women. This "trophy" is the one life achievement he is proud of, because he finally got away with vengence against the white man. All of his fears have been subdued, and substituted for arrogance. This path will not unfold with Bigger on top.
After reading most of book two, I practically hate Bigger. I feel that what he had done and what he did to cover up his crime was 100% wrong. Bigger has been taking advantage of the fact that Mr. and Mrs. Dalton believed every word of his story.. There was no reason to drag Bessie into his mess, and there was certainly no reason to kill her. What he had done was very selfish of him. He couldv'e simply left Bessie at her apartment and not have told her anything. With Bigger killing Bessie, I have lost all respect for him.
Thursday, February 25, 2010
After reading Book 2, I have no more sympathy for Bigger, after Mary`s body had been taken care of, Bigger began making plans in his mind of how to put all the blame onto Jan, and make it seem as if Mary had been kidnapped so he could make a ransom note demanding money from the Daltons for Marys safe return. He also brings Bessie into this mess and once she knows the truth about Mary, Bigger kills her by smashing her face in with a brick and throwing her down an air shaft, Bigger does this because he knows he cant bring her along to run away from cops, but he can`t leave her behind because she is completely emtionally unstable and would tell the police everything that Bigger had done. After Bigger kills Bessie, he feels empowered by all of it, he killed a rich white girl and now he had killed Bessie, he feels like he is above the law and no one can stop him.
2. At first glance, I easily lose a lot of sympathy for Bigger while reading the second Book. He moves on to make Mary's death a way for him to receive money, he talks about the how killing Mary gives him a sense of empowerment, he drags innocent Bessie into the situation putting her in a place of danger, and he manipulates everyone around him. Then when I step back and try to see the story through Bigger's eyes, I realize how sad it is that he acts and feels this way. It is truly sad that the only way he feels empowered is by killing another human being. At one point Bigger thinks to himself , " There was something he knew and something he felt; something the world gave him and something he himself had. . . . Never in all his life, with this black skin of his, had the two worlds, thought and feeling, will and mind, aspiration and satisfaction, been together; never had he felt a sense of wholeness." How sad it is that society is so corrupted, that all a black man can have to himself is a murder? On another note, How sad is it that Bigger can play the role of dumb Black man and everyone will follow along like it is only right? At one point Britten after questioning Bigger says, "aww he's a dumb cluck, he doesn't know anything." It really is sad that Bigger can use these stereotypes to his own advantage. I really do think that by getting money from the Dalton's (aside from keeping the pressure off him) is really another desperate act to less inferior to white society. In a less dramatic sense, I keep seeing a connection between Bigger and drowned out celebrities that make bad decisions to feel that empowerment of attention again. They will do anything just to be noticed. Though Bigger's situation and that of a washed up celebrity is completely different, they both show humanities desperation to feel a sense of power and ownership. Although I do not approve of anything Bigger is doing, I can see that his reactions are just deep down coming from a place desperation and lifetime of living in a corrupt, extremely divided society.
-Liz Kleisner.
2nd post for native son
Now that you have read in to Book II, how do you feel about Bigger now and why do you feel this way?
I feel sympathy and very little else for the unfortunate Bigger. When you are tossed head first into a hostile world, the natural fight-or-flight instinct kicks in. For most of the Blacks (including Bigger in Book 1), it is the flight reaction. Avoid contact with whites, pretty much bow your head and avoid pissing them off. This remains the same for the majority in Book 2, but Bigger kills Mary, and upon his reflection of the events, the “flight” instinct switches to “fight”. You could call this his fatal mistake, but he is lashing out, expressing the anger that has built up in him and in all blacks. For the first time in his life, he feels superior to the white society. It’s hard to blame someone who has been oppressed his entire life for wanting some small piece of revenge. He desperately wants to preserve that feeling of power. Bigger feels that taking advantage of his accidental murder is a justified, even a noble thing to do. His views may be slightly skewed, but overall his mission is good. You could argue that he was being selfish by smothering a woman, burning her body, writing a ransom note, and smashing his girlfriend to death with a brick, and you might be right. But if you read between the lines, it becomes clear that Bigger Thomas is a hero, taking a stand for the black community, and valiantly becoming a martyr for his noble cause.
moots
Monday, February 22, 2010
how do you feel about bigger in book one and two?
Monday, February 8, 2010
Sorry this is late, I had trouble posting earlier
I would have to say that Bigger was responsible for his actions for the most part. Even though it was society that partially caused his fear, it was Bigger who let his fear get the best of him. It is possible for a person to put fear aside and not give in to it and Bigger failed. Throughout the entirety of book one, Bigger has demonstrated his ability to express his fear and anger in violent outbursts and I would say that is very possible to prevent such events. At the end of book one, Bigger kills Mary in an event that was entirely preventable. For example, if Bigger hadn’t hung around and groped Mary, he wouldn’t have any reason to be hiding from Mrs. Dalton. Also, if Bigger had paid attention to what he was doing and calmed down, he would not have accidentally smothered Mary.
-Willy Steers
…Go Saints
Krispy Cremes
Sunday, February 7, 2010
But at the same time, society has obviously influenced the unwritten rules and ways that Bigger interacts with whites. Mary and Jan treat Bigger like a human, something he isn't used to. On page 73 Bigger says, "He scratched his head. How on earth could he learn not to say yessuh and yessum to white people in one night when he had been saying it all his life long?" The couple put him in many uncomfortable situations. Yes, he should have refused to take Mary to see Jan and attempted to stop her from getting drunk...but after years and years of being put down by society and being told to never even look a white person in the eye, how could he find this new bravery and tell the rich and powerful, white Mary Dalton "no" during his first day on the job?
But, despite the fact society influenced the ability of Bigger to say no, his actions of murdering Mary and burning her body make it impossible use society as an excuse. He has to learn to control his outbursts and emotions, but just because he can't doesn't mean society can be blamed for a gruesome murder.
- Jim O'Donnell
-Emily Raymond
Katie Holihan
-liz kleisner
Native Son Book 1 Response
-Cooper
-Tarryn
-Ali Moravsky
-Linnea
- Jackie Krukowski
-Tyler Palmese
I think society is nearly completely responsible for the death of Mary Dalton
-Claudia
-Jamie Davenport
Saturday, February 6, 2010
Bigger vs. Society
I believe that society is only 60-65% culpable for the actions of Bigger Thomas. With the way blacks were treated in his time period there is no reason society can't be blamed. With the conditions and standards placed on Bigger, it was only a matter of time before he snapped, mentally, or physically (Bigger showed both categories). Blacks are treated unfairly, and these pressures are more than enough to drive anybody to the brink of insanity. Yet it is difficult to completely place the blame on society. There are millions of black Americans living under the exact same hostile conditions as Bigger, and others possess the self-control to keep their rage in check. We have already established at the very beginning of the book that Bigger is someone quick to anger and one who enjoys being in control and having power. He makes it very difficult to place all of the blame on society.